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NYT rising star Astead Herndon on podcasts, power, and the 2024 race

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The Importance of Being a Centrist

I would say race always comes up. People will talk to you in the middle of an interview, we'll be like, well, you know, the call is racist, but look at us right now. I'm talking about that's like a common expression of it. It comes up on when I was in Bernie Sanders rallies,. People would tell me about their civil rights activism and unprompted do their like white liberal guilt box checking. What happens when you knock on a door or call someone and say, "I'm from the New York Times"? They either see you and they see that you're a black man from the New Yorker. Or they hear you and maybe they can't

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