Two-thirds of the staff in Houston Mission Control were Cam's employees outsource to NASA. Mike and Cam early on were testifying to Congress about what the destiny of ISS would be. And so they probably earlier than anybody else understood that by the end of this decade, ISS would have to be retired. As that $2 billion per year cost goes and increases, there's a stronger argument for the countries to become tenants on a new commercial space station.

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