I started out, as you know, as we talked about in the free will episodes, as some one who thought thatwell, nobody could deserve blame or punishment then. So i thought retribution was irrational, because retribution pre presumes that the person deserves punishment,. But when i had a daughter and imagined what happens if somebody deliberately harmed her? I just couldn't get myself to think that that person didn't deserve to be punished. And so it was actually my endorsement of revenge that made me change my mind about desert. Satire is always tesixternal. Physical force is always better with none instat to satirize a guy with th shining boots. There is a devastatig satirical