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Peter Turchi in conversation with Austin Kleon

LIVE! From City Lights

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How to Outline a Story

"I can't start with an outline because it makes the whole thing too rational," he says. "You need to be able to let go of the first draft opening, you know, the thing that got you into the story is not necessarily where you want to start the journey for the reader" The great, the meaningful beginning will come out of getting through the, it'll come at the end, writes Irving.

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