Is There a Space for This?

I think there's definitely like a space for this, but I'm actually observing a, I've worked with Pat as an inventor for many, many years and then I work with Bo as an inventor. Like Pat, you naturally sort of vet and refine your inventions as you're creating them. And so yeah. So one of the things that would be interesting to share with listeners is when we do a podcast, especially at the table, our other podcast,.