How did theists square that with this idea, not just a predestination, cause, you covered that. How can you be held accountable for you choose jesus as your saviour or you and if you don't, you're punished? And i think it's fair to say they struggled with it. They struggled hard with it. Think about witgenstein and schopenhauer and all those figures of the the twentieth century. So i think it's expecting too much to think that these theologians would have resolved that in a way it's easy to explain and easy for folks like us to understand.

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