In this episode, Dr. Dru Johnson sits down with Matt Whitman, host of The Ten Minute Bible Hour, to explore why so many Christians—and skeptics—struggle with Scripture. Whitman shares what he’s learned from engaging millions online: people are often afraid to be wrong, shaped by graceless experiences in church and cancel culture in the wider world. The solution? Modeling curiosity, empathy, and intellectual humility.
Whitman opens up about his own faith journey, the impact of church hurt, and why he makes space for disagreement and exploration in his content. From deconstructing popular biblical themes to highlighting the beauty of traditions outside his own, Matt argues that deep scriptural engagement thrives in environments where it’s okay not to have all the answers.
Together, Dru and Matt delve into themes like biblical coherence, the importance of interpretive grace, and what it means to approach the Bible not as experts, but as learners. Their conversation models the very ethos they preach: thoughtful, generous dialogue rooted in the belief that God’s grace extends to our minds—not just our sins.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:54 Resistance to the Bible and Church Experiences
04:57 Cultural Resistance and Historical Context
07:44 Navigating Hurt and Church Experiences
10:56 Empathy and Understanding in Conversations
14:21 Normalizing Being Wrong
17:20 Internal Cohesion in Christianity
25:38 Universal Themes in the Bible
32:44 Navigating Biblical Interpretation and Truth
35:43 The Complexity of Biblical Truth
37:55 The Pressure of Pastoral Performance
42:14 The Challenge of Authenticity in Teaching
45:32 Modeling Intellectual Grace and Humility
49:40 Creating a Gracious Learning Environment
53:16 The Nature of Knowledge and Learning in Faith
