It's so deep in us to think we're on our way to something else, and that the real life is going. This moment right now matters as much as anything in the universe. You can sort of take the moment from the 50 cent rack and put it in the jewellry case. I don't mean to cheapen it by making it a podcast technique, but there is some value when i'm talking to anybody, and not just for a good podcast, but for a good moment, good life.