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The Trump Campaign's Fraud Investigation

Mark O'Mara: The Trump campaign signed documents admitting that there was no evidence of fraud under oath in various cases. So they could theoretically not be prosecuted for lying, but then they kept saying publicly there was fraud. That's the kind of intentionality you need to have to prove something like racketeering, correct? He says he represented President Biden in 65 post-election lawsuits and won 64 out of them. "There were so many efforts going on in tandem, as you remember, Mark. It was hard to know who was doing what"

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