"I would try to hide this from Jack and I would try in good face, just the best face I could," she says. "And then how you show up in front of your children when they're young is how they're going to show up to you." After COVID hit, her business went into free-fall: "Now I went from finding a purpose in the thing that was pulling me out of the darkness, to losing the thing ... having to figure out myself and this"

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