John Papola is the founder of Emergent Order and host of the Dad Saves America Podcast.

Expect to learn the genesis of Dad Saves America, how John came up with the idea, and why he believes that the family unit is the most important place to build the future of American culture. You’ll also learn how John got started as an independent media creator, the genesis of Emergent Order, and what John thinks are the biggest problems for us to solve culturally and institutionally.

This episode was recorded as part 1 of a double header. After interviewing John for HFP, John interviewed me on his show Dad Saves America. That episode will be live soon.