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#780 - DIALOGUE: Did the Apostles Die for a Lie? (with Paulogia)

The Counsel of Trent

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The Rise of the Church in the Second Century

I would still disagree with that those structures weren't present early. I think the letter of James is actually written pretty early like before the temple was destroyed and it talks about press bittoroy and elders. But you would agree that there's there wasn't a church era of disorganization and then an era of organization. We both agree that this certainly was the case, at least for some of these original witnesses of what they thought was supernatural. For some of those, in 1 Corinthians 15, 3 through 8, in the canonical resurrection narratives, were to spend the rest of their lives proclaiming they had seen the risen Lord,. Several of them would die for their cause.

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