The Slope of Enlightenment

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i've always said, long before i was at argo, it'd be nice if we could have that infra structure. But what would that structure actually look like? And the miles that matter, in a lot of cases, are this is what you're doing. So the intra structure that avis, or some a lot of avis are going to need is as simple, no plou for sure. I think one of the big misconceptions about the whole hypecycle is that coming out of the trougf of delusionment, a disillusionment, is like a reversion to sort of where we were in the hype era. It's really different.

Transit advocates have made autonomous vehicles something of a boogeyman lately, framing the emerging technology as a way to perpetuate the car's mobility monopoly and starve public transit of funding. In reality, transit is one of the most compelling applications and automation is a huge opportunity to dramatically improve public transit. To help explain this opportunity, Nathaniel Horadam of the Center for Transportation and the Environment joins the show to discuss a light-rail style automated bus rapid transit project he's been working on, and the automated transit opportunity more broadly.