Speaker 2
Yeah, have you had any interactions with the effective altruism people? Yeah,
Speaker 1
yeah, yeah, a lot. And again, like the individual is really good. I've done talks for clubs. I've never been invited to go and give like a plenary talk or for some major meeting of EA. I'd be happy to do it. And I think it's a good thing. I have a piece called The Good Group saying how EA clubs are great. I feel like in real time I'm seeing them get worse. You may remember Richard and then you had a piece saying EA has to become anti woke or die. I think there's a lot to this. Yeah, as soon as you say like, there's a problem we're not being inclusive enough. It's like, yeah, well, because saying that we need to do careful cost benefit analysis and be evidence based and suppress emotions and not listen to people crying and ignore emotional appeals. So that excludes all those people that do that kind of stuff and let them go to their regular crummy charities that don't accomplish anything EA is for a certain kind of person that cares about results. And once you go and accept the attitude of the broader society of we need to care a lot about someone who a particular person who's unhappy about a petty grievance. And it's like, well, that's kind of the beginning of the end of this group of this group as a movement.
Speaker 2
Yeah, I kind of like, I think like in my head, if we did, you know, if we did like the embeddings if we did like the word vector thing, right. So I kind of see EA as related to leftism in the same way that kind of like smart libertarians are related to, you know, like the are related to like mainstream republicanism. The difference to me between like the GMU economics department and like mainstream conservatism is around the same
Speaker 2
in the same direction as
Speaker 1
EA. So that seems reasonable to me. I mean, I would say that, at least until recently, one thing I really like about EA is they really do seem to be EA's first and whatever their political ideology is second and they're very up and minded about it. So in order to once people start going after Nick Bostrom for saying true reasonable things, 20 years ago, that's like you are ruining something that was great. You people should be expelled
Speaker 2
from the movie. Right.
Speaker 1
My favorite reply. Nick, that's right. Yeah,
