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The Cure: Part 1 with Hanif Abdurraqib

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The Importance of Freedom

I think Robert Smith wanted to be famous or wanted to be a rock star because the trappings of rock starter means fame and more ears and eyes on you. But I don't I don't think he really wanted to deal with fame. The thing that Robert Smith seems to hate the most is fakeness. And it was just the fake Olympics when you're even a little bit of fame, let alone what happens later.

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