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Carbon Border Adjustment
I think with our new WTO president who is fabulous that there's an opportunity for conversation. And I would urge you to try and encourage all of your fellow trader voice to look at the bigger picture and see how this can be implemented. So my answer so far, again, it might be crude because I'm not a trade lawyer, is I think we do need not for most sectors. But if we're going to have a carbon border adjustment, then I think I'm going to sort of insist that it's matched to the extent that I can with technology transfer and skills transfer. In an ideal world, the developing world competes in making low carbon or zero carbon steel and cars and etc