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What's it Like in the Closet?

All Out in the Open

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The Gay Ladders in Experience

Matt: "There are so many people in the exact same space" Elairi Stains: "I would just ask you to please try to see people. And you do that by asking questions, by genuinely having enough compassion and love in your heart to ask questions" Ben: "If we treat people like they're in the worst position of their entire lives, we're going to be right 90% of the time"

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