I think the barrier to entry to you just being able to do something tangible with them is very low, much more so than maybe a lot of other things. Once like you kind of be on that shell and many people have that set up for them, then it's ready to roll. All right, so going to be tons of fun to talk about these things. But before we get to them, let's start with your story. How'd you get into programming and Python? I think sort of started with my parents decided to buy a computer when he was eight years old back in the 90s.

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