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61: Unconventional Growth Tactics with Julian Shapiro

The Art of Product

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How to Optimize a Guide for Product Signups

"I'm trying on julian.com to actually first and foremost build my own brand, not build a conduit to getting people to pay me at bellcurve.com," he says. "Almost no one who reads your guide is going to migrate over to Tupel unless there's literally a guide about Tupel." He adds: "If you told me a piece of copy that will get twice as many people to click through to bellCurve.com ... I wouldn't care less".

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