"There is clear as mud. Here's how I say it," he says. "Even liberal Christian scholars who there are very fine Christian scholars of the New Testament don't take it all literally and, and are pretty sensible human beings" He adds that even if John was writing to college students in the 1970s, who did he write it for? And presumably he wants them to understand what he's talking about. Waboka makes parallels with like the 1890 Native American vision where the Messiah will return and white man will leave.

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