Courtland from andy hackers dot com is a self-confessed gift giver. He says he doesn't like to give gifts, especially on mother's day or birthdays. Courtland: "I don't feel i' have ever done like the love languages, and it's like, physical touch"
Long-time listener, first-time guest — Courtland (@csallen) and Channing's (@ChanningAllen) mom, Eva, joins the pod to talk raising twins, buying gifts, selling computer parts, co-founder theft, an Indie Hackers quiz for moms, and why you should never retire.