Cut low-leverage revenue to free time

Chris Hutchins, host of the wildly popular All the Hacks podcast, joins us to crack the code on podcast growth. Most creators dream of building a brand, attracting millions of listeners, and monetizing their passion, but Chris has actually done it, transforming his podcast into a powerhouse through meticulous optimization. If you've ever wondered how successful podcasts truly scale beyond the initial buzz, or how to inject startup-level strategic thinking into your creative venture, this episode is a masterclass. Chris reveals the behind-the-scenes tactics that catapulted his show to millions of downloads, sharing the unconventional strategies that maximize reach and impact.

Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
07:08 The Underrated Power of Networking
11:09 Leveraging Your Inner Circle for Connections
15:08 Crafting Pitches That Stand Out
20:00 The Value of Deep Expertise
23:44 Podcast Growth: Beyond the Numbers
28:07 Gauging Podcast Potential with Overcast Ads
32:20 Strategic Guesting on Other Podcasts
37:57 The Art of Asking to Be a Host
42:04 Maximizing Value in Podcast Collaborations
46:19 The Untapped Potential of Post-Roll Ads
51:00 Subsidizing Growth for Maximum Scale
54:15 Reinvestment and Strategic Retreats
58:24 Optimizing for Leverage, Not Just Revenue
1:01:52 Gaming the Podcast Charts
1:08:14 Essential Personal Finance Hacks
1:10:00 The Ultimate Hotel Upgrade Hack
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Featured in this episode:
Kit: https://www.kit.com
All the Hacks: https://allthehacks.com

Highlights:
02:22 Shifting from Entrepreneur to Creator Identity
08:31 The Power Move of Ending a Conversation
12:12 Networking by Adding Value to an Inner Circle
26:35 Podcast Downloads vs. YouTube Views: Engagement Matters
34:04 Treating Your Creator Business Like a Startup
45:15 The Strategy of Buying Post-Roll Ads
1:08:29 Why You Should Never Leave Cash in a Checking Account