The Appeal of a Motive

The appeal of a motive is and the appeal of power is that it describes accurately our experience. And rarely do we have, at least in these kind of big conversations, the experience of disinterested debate or disinterested exchange. So I think it's so even though it sounds it sounds polyanish and naive to say, let's just reason, let's sit on reason together, I Think it's deeply human. It's something that's done within the context of a Christian community.