Ughi not surprised. Was it circumplex model? Yes. So the way i think that this transmits for anybody who is a parent, is when you show your child respect and you listen to what your child is saying. And if they're right, let them be right. But here's a tough horne, if they're wrong, you got to keep going at em. You got to use the socratic method. There's a number of things you have to do, and easier said than done. You have to trust the kids,. You have to allow them to lead. That creates, in my opinion, has you readany of tim leary in his