I think there's a kind of conversion in Demosthenes. Namely that Philipp has suddenly lightning speed. First of all gone far east of the Black Sea. And threatening the Athenians grain supply from actually Ukraine and Crimea of wheat. But still when even more obviously Philipp was threatening Athens interests by destroying an ally of Athens up in the north of Linthus, still they don't do anything. Well that's partly because he's remember only 32, something like that early 30s. And this is... Is it them or him? Sorry, isit them or him or is it the reason? There is nothing happens. They can't be moved by me.

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