Ken miller is the a biologist who debunked the intelligent design arguments about irreducible lexity in cellular structure, things like that. But he's a catholic, anyway. He was at a conference with richard dawkins and asked him if we found a piece of the true cross which people claim existsd but we know this is the right one. Ad kan just kind of stopped him and said, i'm not claiming this is true in an empirical, biological, dana sense. I just mean this, i'm a catholic. Thisis what we believe and full stop. Andi think it's really important to distinguish between those two categories. Not prepared to say

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