Abin: I heard myself bursting out and saying, swamy, all this is maa. And samvevika an the then he says, i noticed i used the bengali diminutive. In hindi, ap would be the way, like a tow you address a teacher, a goro, for example. So sure it must be some of that stuff which verecande said to his disciple. At one point, i decided to give a talk on maa sort of summarizing what san ivecand has said in those lectures. Everybody's interested more than atman bramhan gad its maya. People want to know, what is it actually?