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DO 156 - Dark Optimism, Lean Logic, and Surviving the Future with Shaun Chamberlin and Jason

Doomer Optimism

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The Environmentalist Favorite Argument

I absolutely do not know well enough to speak for him in any way at all and want to make that absolutely clear. And I haven't spoken to him about this so yeah, just wants to make that clear. Chris was the commissioning editor for the small farm future book that you brought out. Yeah, it's very influential and dim optimism. From my perspective and again I stress like I absolutely do not speak for George in any wayat all. Nor have I, nor have I been following his work super closely recently. Basically because it's gone in a very different direction to my own.

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