Moshe hoffman is a research scientist at the max planc institute for evolutionary biology. He uses game theory models of learning and evolution to decipher motives that shape our social behavior, preferences and ideologies. Eritz yole is aResearch scientist at m i t's sloane's school of management. His research focus is on altruism, understanding how it works and how to promote it. We discuss internalized mesageny, a raceism,. systemicrace ism, the implicit association test. And then we kind of wrap up talking about some of the larger issues of our time in this context.

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