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193. Momentum VS Perfection: The Biggest Question in Climate Right Now? (Part Two)

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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Are There Other Examples of a Negotiator Helping the Campaigners?

I remember in Paris when we were having problems, you know, I would then give a call to my friends at 350 or a Vaz or Greenpeace and say, we've got a problem in here. Then show up with trumpets and banners and then I could go along to the negotiators and say, look at these lunatics,. We're going to have to do something about this. It was all kind of orchestrated behind the scenes. Other examples where you were in trouble and you picked up the phone and talked to the activists and gotten to play a particular role to help you? Definitely.

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