Stephen Miller: Immigration's Broad Costs

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Buck Flying Solo

The discussion opens with the economic outlook under President Donald Trump’s second term, emphasizing persistent affordability issues and inflationary pressures that remain despite strong stock market performance. Buck highlights the lingering impact of COVID-era shutdowns and stimulus spending, noting that prices for essentials like housing, healthcare, and education remain high. He cites recent trade deficit improvements as evidence of Trump’s “America First” trade policies and tariff strategy, while warning that Democrats will weaponize price discontent in upcoming elections.  Insights from former SEC Chair Jay Clayton on the 22% price surge under Biden, framing affordability as the defining economic challenge. Buck stresses that Republicans must go beyond blaming Biden-era inflation and articulate clear solutions, including boosting supply and efficiency rather than resorting to destructive price controls—a policy he compares to Venezuela’s economic collapse.

The Unaffordable Care Act

Buck also addresses healthcare policy battles, revealing dueling Senate bills on Obamacare subsidies and criticizing Democrats’ push to extend Affordable Care Act provisions, which he argues have made healthcare far less affordable. He warns that rising premiums and taxpayer-funded coverage for illegal immigrants remain underreported but critical issues.  Buck calls for unity on the right, rejecting intramural squabbles and urging focus on core priorities: fixing costs, securing the border, and countering media misinformation. He promotes his upcoming book Manufacturing Delusion, which explores propaganda and political manipulation, framing it as essential reading for understanding today’s ideological battles.

The Truth About Immigration

Buck Sexton leads a candid discussion on the breaking news that a federal judge has ordered the release of Ilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged MS-13 gang member previously detained by ICE. This controversial ruling sparks debate about the legal wrangling surrounding deportations, the Supreme Court’s involvement, and the Trump administration’s efforts to treat MS-13 as a foreign terrorist organization.

Buck frames the immigration crisis as a systemic failure spanning decades, criticizing both Democrats and establishment Republicans for enabling what he calls a “third-world invasion.” He cites expert commentary from Steven Miller, who argues that unchecked immigration impacts every major policy issue—from education and healthcare to crime and the federal deficit. Miller’s analysis underscores how subtracting illegal immigration from these metrics would dramatically improve outcomes, revealing the hidden costs of current policies.

We Have to Draw a Line

The conversation expands to Trump’s stance on merit-based immigration, including his blunt remarks about prioritizing immigrants from high-functioning countries like Norway and Denmark over those from unstable regions plagued by crime and terrorism. Buck explores the cultural implications of mass migration, questioning whether America can maintain its identity amid tens of millions of illegal immigrants—estimated at 20 to 30 million today. He warns that Democrats’ push for amnesty and open borders could permanently alter the nation’s political and social fabric.

Listeners hear Buck dismantle common pro-immigration narratives, challenging the notion that assimilation is automatic. He points to examples in Europe, where large migrant populations have resisted integration, fueling crime and cultural clashes. Buck emphasizes that shared language, law, and culture are essential for national unity, advocating for stronger enforcement and a slowdown in immigration to preserve American values.

The hour also touches on DHS Secretary Noem’s testimony on Capitol Hill, where she defends Trump’s immigration policies against Democratic attacks. Buck critiques media coverage, particularly CNN’s framing of the issue, and calls for honesty about historical immigration patterns and their consequences. He argues that America’s foreign-born population has reached unsustainable levels, making assimilation and economic stability increasingly difficult. 

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