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What’s At The Heart Of Black Disability Politics? with Professor Sami Schalk

Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

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Is There a Better Way to End This Episode of Getting Curious Than That?

I think that it transforms the way that people feel about these spaces. It transforms how my students feel about the classroom space, but it also changes how people feel about protests. So I just try to bring that energy and that like love and joy to people and encourage them to do the same. And so bringing pleasure throughout my activist work, but also understanding engaging in pleasure is active this work for me. That was a real turning point for me because so many people like tried to get me fired for talking with Lizzo Because I said it was inappropriate behavior for a professor.

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