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Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders

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Is There a Black Barber in Middle Earth?

Cara Swisher has been reading New York Magazine for 30 years. Ebony Elizabeth Thomas is an associate professor at the University of Michigan. Head to NYMag.com slash pod for 30% off your first year of unlimited access to titles like Vulture and the Cut.

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