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American Masters Creative Spark illuminates the creative journeys of icons across disciplines. Host Joe Skinner sits down with luminaries like legendary writer, director John Waters and Oscar winning songwriter Buffy St. Marie. This week, Jennifer Egan talks about how her novels sometimes resemble concept albums.

Heidi, Heidi, Heidi! Everyone's talking about this adorable ragamuffin, a precocious child who lights up every life she touches like a ray of God's perfect sunshine. This week we learn that living in a hut in the Swiss Alps is better than living in a city, and that if you roast a piece of cheese just right it sounds like the best food you could ever eat.

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