Sass: Mark was an amazing visionary and just incredibly inspiring person. One of the initial things that he thought of as when he went to market was he thought his idea of no soft ware. When they kind of said, no soft ware, they understood the pain of dealing with the incumbents. And so when you were going to customers n you sort of in what it is you do. People didn't understand what the cloud was. Were goingto host your sofwer in the cloud. It was trying to convince them, will know, we're going to deliver it to you in real time. You're gong to consume it over the inner tet. I think that's the

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