356: Gladiator Ben
The Poundcast
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Don't Always Believe What You Think
"I'm trying to be a little bit like just be in the fucking moment and because that desire is the cause of all suffering or the want to want is to suffer right?" he says. "The less I need the better I felt, the less I needed the better I feel." He adds: "It was not always pleasurable, and it was, it was off, rarely fun and easy but there was a beautiful thing to [the] documentary" The interview will air at 10 p.m. ET tonight on CNN.
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