For the past few months, Jodi Kantor and Jo Becker, investigative reporters for The New York Times, have looked into a secretive, yearslong effort by an anti-abortion activist to influence the justices of the Supreme Court.

This is the story of the Rev. Rob Schenck, the man who led that effort.

Guest: Jodi Kantor, an investigative reporter for The New York Times. 

Background reading: 

• Years before the leaked draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade, a landmark contraception ruling was disclosed, according to Mr. Schenck.

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