I wouldn't underestimate, although I can see why something like you and never some breeds this, you probably feel incredibly frustrated that it's not happening quicker. But I wouldn't underestimate how much change has happened to how much they have sought to move. You do have to have people who've got their hands on the absolute views of power to want to go with the flow of what it is that you're trying to achieve or create. So I think it's important when you are campaigning and trying to get change. It's really important that you can have hold on to the progress that you have made and don't underestimate the extent to which that can become a tipping point eventually.

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