I wanted to ask you, what's your because recreational could also be this portal into the like awe inspiring moments of peak experience?

Yeah, I mean, I mean, my favorite recipe is just is straight up for like life, you know, for life for marriage for meaning for growth is get your ass to someplace wild in the back country, you know, natural hot springs, preferable kick ass, you know, celestial event, new moon, moon meteor shower optional, but suggested, right? And throw the fuck down with a handful of people you love and be remade on this earth as a human. And then spend a few days bossking in that with no super ego, no socially defined anything, no phones, no bullshit, just you as the humans, this little band of people together, mewling like infants, and put yourself back together. And watch a few more sunrises and sunsets and boss in the National Geographic splendor of actually being in one of those sacred places in 3D. And let yourself knit back together and then have that as a somatic marker, like a felt sense and bottling memory of what it feels like to be alive, aware and in tune on this earth. And then go back to your life. And if you want to call that recreation, I suppose it's a default category like none of the above, you know, but I would see it much more as DIY Sacramento and available to all of

us.