Speaker 3
a pretty big road warrior fan. That movie really peeled my cat back when I saw it. And I'd never seen anything like that. That kind of mythology torn from whole cloth and just been like, this isn't Star Wars. This isn't something that you kind of know about. And that's right on the edge of where exploitation movies become prestige movies. The first film I think in some ways there's a couple of sliding doors and that's just like Vanishing Point. It's like a movie that they show at New Beverly at midnight, but it doesn't wind up being something that births a billion dollar franchise and makes Mel Gibson a global superstar. It's just like a cult movie that like I ever seen that movie where the guy gets like his keyboard over and then he chases people through Australia all day. It's awesome. It was like that would basically be what Mad Max is. And then Road Warrior makes it into I think this epic tale of post-apocalyptic dystopian gas guzzling. Metal Gear Solid craziness. Yeah, it's Road
Speaker 2
Warrior really changed my life in terms of dystopian movie making. I'd never engage with a story quite like that. And also just a really cool story. The cynicism like underneath it where it's like you do something. Mad Max finally does something good for other people and then he gets screwed in the end. It's just a great turn. I actually saw a beyond thunder dome in the Philippines since I was thinking about something you just said Chris about how you really just don't you don't need to any you don't need to understand what's happening to understand what's happening because of the visual storytelling so strong. I watched it with a guy who didn't speak any English and we and he was
Speaker 2
he understood the movie. He's like master blaster. Yeah master blaster. Great. So there's that one part where a guy like just he crashes his car and then his like middle finger comes up out of the sand and he was laughing like so it Miller is incredible at that kind of visual storytelling and and it's interesting that the story really doesn't need to have any kind of like real connections to what came before it's like Max in this is sort of like
Speaker 2
Max but not really. Like also lost his family we presume because of the flashbacks but there's no there's no hard
Speaker 1
connective tissue. Like I had you seen any of the Mad Max movies before this movie. No but
Speaker 2
I mean like I I you understand I mean like you get the gist of it. I think that I passed a point. And I guess living memory like you know all the references to the Mad Max you know pre it's doesn't feel right. The first Mad Max movies. The theme of resource depletion general hopelessness what happens when there are no heroes, etc, etc, etc. So you get the gist of it and then I mean like the first the first like 30 minutes of Fury Road. We were talking about a little bit earlier is just everything is very hastily rendered it throws it at you and you have to deal with it and you get that you understand what's happening and some of Max's motivations at least. Yeah it's also I think
Speaker 1
we tend to forget that these movies came before the Terminator they came before 12 monkeys they came before like all this kind of post-apocalypse the Matrix. This wave of movies there's sort of science fiction action that started to take over Hollywood through the 80s and 90s and George Miller's movie is essentially sort of built the template for it even though they don't quite look and feel exactly like the others. Should we dive into the categories.