Refusing to Quit: Endure and You'll Win

What do you want to leave behind - not just for the people you love, but in them? In this moving conversation, Ginny sits down with pastor and bestselling author Chris Hodges to talk about his book Legacy Letters: Timeless Principles I Learned, Lived, and Leave Behind. In Ginny's words, it's one of her favorite episodes ever!

Chris shares why reaching his sixties, raising five children, and becoming a grandfather to 12 (with another on the way) changed the way he thinks about success. Instead of simply building, he began asking what wisdom, habits, and values he wanted to pass to the generations coming behind him.

Chris and Ginny explore the principles that matter even more in an age when information is everywhere: patience, perseverance, attitude, intentionality, encouragement, and a willingness to act before everything feels perfect. Chris explains why he believes patience can be a competitive advantage, why attitude is a choice rather than a feeling, and why making each day a “masterpiece” starts with identifying a few things that truly matter and actually doing them. He also shares the surprising power of writing down your dreams, including how a seemingly impossible bucket-list goal eventually led to a ride in an F-16.

The conversation ultimately comes back to something beautifully simple: slowing down enough to notice your life. Chris shares his daily ritual of feeding the birds, spending time outside, and finding a quiet moment that replenishes rather than merely distracts him from the pressures of life. And in a fitting conclusion, he tells the story of fishing with his grandfather—the man who taught him to respect nature, treat people well, and live by principles worth passing on. This episode is an invitation to consider the life you're building, the people you're influencing, and the legacy that may already be taking shape in the ordinary moments you share with the people you love.

Get Chris' book here!

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