I think that maybe there's a question lingering in people's minds here, like why is it a question how the black holes form aren't you simulating what happens. I take it that this goes back to that sub grid problem. It goes exactly back to the sub grid problem so if you imagine where does a black hole come from well a what we call a stellar mass black hole is formed at the end of a life of a star. So if we can't actually be sure about how stars form, then we can't Actually be sure about How Black Holes Form.

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