I think if you optimize your LDL cholesterol, I don't think there's really good evidence. There is differences in how people respond. Some people have higher elevations than others. So maybe that accounts for some of the health effects that we see in the epidemiological literature. If you don't have those bigger, and if you have perfect LDL cholesterol, it's not a big deal, that's perfectly possible. But I don't see any harm of having like really good LDL cholesterol levels and then eating beef.