Kettle bells are something that i've done fairly, much more recently. They're a different kind of exercise. It's not actreme weight that you're getting on yourself,. which is a good thing for you in small doses. But it's this different sort of springy. movement and throwing these things. I'll bet that's where the saturday night lie perrody came from. We're going to pump you. Opper, was that arnold? Maybe? He's been doing the stuff for quite a while but he's been totally under the radar until he did at joe rogan podcast a few years ago. And then i gurgled the name,