We need carrying on with the same paradigm of what the world is, what nature is and what human being is. That needs some kind of expansion or even revolution. And for me now, healing that doesn't involve that opening up and making a holy of the world of perception has to do with the nature of perception and conception in the widest and deepest possible sense. Mm-hmm. So I'm OK with that word. It's just come to mean something much different. We are becoming more conscious of that. There are all kinds of other possibilities, personal, collective, and relational possible.

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