Anonymous founders of the Effective Accelerationist (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety.

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(00:00) Episode preview

(03:00) Intro to effective accelerationism

(08:00) Differences between effective accelerationism and effective altruism

(23:00) Effective accelerationism is bottoms-up

(42:00) Transhumanism

(46:00) "Equanimity amidst the singularity"

(48:30) Why AI safety is the wrong frame

(56:00) Pushing back against effective accelerationism

(01:06:00) The case for AI safety

(01:24:00) Upgrading civilizational infrastructure

(01:33:00) Effective accelerationism is anti-fragile

(01:39:00) Will we botch AI like we botched nuclear?

(01:46:00) Hidden costs of emphasizing downsides

(2:00:00) Are we in the same position as neanderthals, before humans?

(2:09:00) "Doomerism has an unpriced opportunity cost of upside"

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