What Kind of Growth Is It?

Dan Wertheim: What kind of growth is it? Because one of the things I thought about as we were preparing for this is Mars Hill, right? We've been listening to the Christianity today podcast, hating most of it, loving a lot of what Mark did actually. He says that with this big, fast, famous model, what you really have is these churches that have turned where else are you trying to get people to buy your product? It's in business. And so there's both the good and the bad. The church wasn't the trunk. A guy was the trunk when the guy gets disqualified or when the tree dies then the true church isn't like that because Christ