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216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay
We Can Do Hard Things
The Wisdom of No Escape
Sally Kohn: I wanted to circle back in some way to that atwood observation. When your whole life is built around obscuring the fact or like tending to the fantasy of not being frail, that is such an assault when someone witnesses the fact that you're actually frail. But partly this, see if I can bring this over to the J and me and Jay. She says she started to learn about observing herself after reading Pemma Chidrome's "Things Fall Apart"
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