I like to think what you're doing is more than art it's not just an artsy trend right that could go this way or this that way hopefully it's driven by well mathematics and empiricism. I knew Stephen Weinberg a little bit mostly because traveling in atheist circles so he did have something of a reputation of being a little kind of an angry atheist a little bit and so maybe some of that fuels the interpretation of comments like thatYeah yeah it's interesting you know you talk about the early Stephen Hawking and the later Stephen Hawking it's the kind of thing you hear like the the early Van Gogh before he was an impressionist and then the later Van Gogh we came,

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