I was more a geneticist working in virology, actually looking at how viruses would change genes and jump from animals to humans. So then I was like, maybe I'll do a PhD. And I learned about eutrogenomics, epigenetics. As someone who was into health and nutrition and exercise. But yeah, Michael's amazing. He is without a doubt the guru,. the head of, you know, he, he ran the DNA damage and eutrogenomic lab at CSIRO. We're both peeing ourselves with excitement as we talk about this biologically aging study that we're both excited about.

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